Team Ninja Bulletin Board  

Go Back   Team Ninja Bulletin Board > DC Vault > New Projects

View Poll Results: Add EON 2 to the Vault
Yes 18 94.74%
No 1 5.26%
Other 0 0%
Voters: 19. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 1st September 2010, 10:53 AM
opyrt's Avatar
opyrt opyrt is offline
Ninja Gunso
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 252
Eon 2

Eon is back, and this time as a BOINC project: http://eon.ices.utexas.edu/eon2/

I see they are working on the project as things change there from day to day. As for the work, there aren't that many WUs to get yet and there are some problems to iron out before this project works properly:
  • Deadline on WUs is one hour after download, making all of them high priority.
  • Most WUs finish in 2-3 minutes but some take up to half an hour on an i7 and grab 1,9GB RAM. The "big ones" seems to come in groups, so suddenly you have 8 WUs claiming 2GB RAM each, which will cause problems on many computers. I'm also doubtful as to if older computers will manage the one hour deadline on those WUs.
  • There is no community forum.
  • There is no way to contact admin.
That being said, I'm sure we'll see a lot of changes for the better the next few days.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 2nd September 2010, 07:13 AM
Rusty Rusty is offline
Owner
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Posts: 11,333
Thanks Duuuuuudddddddeeeee
__________________
RUSTY


Team Ninja Forever : Once a Ninja, always a Ninja - Team Ninja

"I'm a SAS NINJA"

Drafted to the SAS
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11th September 2010, 12:29 PM
Rusty Rusty is offline
Owner
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Posts: 11,333
any news?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 13th September 2010, 07:02 PM
DigiK-oz DigiK-oz is offline
Dutch Power Cows
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: netherlands
Posts: 137
Exporting stats more frequently now, work is flowing, but had some problems with hew application version. Mainly startup issues I think, and very responsive admins. So far so good.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 25th September 2010, 12:54 AM
Rusty Rusty is offline
Owner
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Posts: 11,333
Hows it looking? Some reports from crunchers would be nice
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 25th September 2010, 10:31 AM
DigiK-oz DigiK-oz is offline
Dutch Power Cows
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: netherlands
Posts: 137
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
Hows it looking? Some reports from crunchers would be nice
I'm running this one on one machine. They are improving the client all the time, recently the progress bar in BOINC was implemented. But, there is no checkpointing yet (with small WU's not really a problem) and although work is flowing, it is not available in huge quantities.

Scoring is still claimed=granted, which would encourage cheaters I'm afraid.

They're working hard on getting the project to mature, but at this point I think it is not ready for the Vault's stamp of approval (yet).
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 25th September 2010, 01:34 PM
cswchan's Avatar
cswchan cswchan is offline
Crunchers Inc
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 191
Quote:
Originally Posted by DigiK-oz View Post
I'm running this one on one machine. They are improving the client all the time, recently the progress bar in BOINC was implemented. But, there is no checkpointing yet (with small WU's not really a problem) and although work is flowing, it is not available in huge quantities.

Scoring is still claimed=granted, which would encourage cheaters I'm afraid.

They're working hard on getting the project to mature, but at this point I think it is not ready for the Vault's stamp of approval (yet).

agreed... needs more time to mature and get the bugs out...
__________________
Crunchers Inc
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 15th November 2010, 01:42 PM
opyrt's Avatar
opyrt opyrt is offline
Ninja Gunso
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 252
Quote:
Originally Posted by opyrt View Post
  • Deadline on WUs is one hour after download, making all of them high priority.
  • Most WUs finish in 2-3 minutes but some take up to half an hour on an i7 and grab 1,9GB RAM. The "big ones" seems to come in groups, so suddenly you have 8 WUs claiming 2GB RAM each, which will cause problems on many computers. I'm also doubtful as to if older computers will manage the one hour deadline on those WUs.
  • There is no community forum.
  • There is no way to contact admin.
I've been running this project again now. The deadline issue is fixed, the RAM issue is fixed. According to the admins, the insane memory usage was due to a leak, and the WUs should never use more than 100MB. A forum is now in place, and you can reach the admins through there.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 2nd December 2010, 03:44 PM
Beyond's Avatar
Beyond Beyond is offline
Ars Technica
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Rum River
Posts: 198
Thumbs down

Not only have they not integrated the old scores into the new as promised, but the current eon app has been running all WUs indefinitely until either BOINC or the machine crashes; in some cases leaving all other projects also failing WUs including GPU apps. I had to restart all my eon boxes to get them totally stable again. What about outlying machines, how to deal with those? This project is definitely not ready for prime time
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 17th May 2012, 07:22 PM
Zachariassen Zachariassen is offline
-one of the pesky Vikings-
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Norway
Posts: 36
It's been quiet on this eOn2-topic for a while....(1 1/2 year - and that is 'a while')...
I have tested a few hundred eOn2-WUs these last weeks, and I'm suprised... in a positive way No 'errors', no 'invalid' - just 'valid' results. The WUs don't use a lot of RAM anymore (less than 1MB on linux and about 7 MB on windows). It seems to me that this last application (from february) has fixed most of the minor problems that they obviously had... Crunchingtime ? Between 3 and 15 minutes (depends on OS and CPU)... Still - they do have short deadlines.... not 1 h. as it once was - but more like 30h. - a deadline most of us can overcome... (I think there is a scientific reason for this short deadline)...
In my opinion ?
Eon2 is one of those project out there that I can't understand why it's NOT 'vaulted'... yet...

Last edited by Zachariassen; 17th May 2012 at 07:25 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 17th May 2012, 10:30 PM
Meadmaker Meadmaker is offline
Owner
Feel the need for MEAD!
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: A foreign field that is forever England
Posts: 21,830
Perhaps it's time for a poll then?
__________________
- Never try to out-stubborn a cat
- A giraffe is a horse designed by a committee
- An elephant is a mouse built to government specifications

attributed to Lazarus Long


Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 19th May 2012, 03:37 AM
Rusty Rusty is offline
Owner
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Posts: 11,333
Poll added.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 20th May 2012, 12:40 AM
Rusty Rusty is offline
Owner
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Posts: 11,333
Tell all your team mates...
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 20th May 2012, 04:04 PM
Qazwaplol Qazwaplol is offline
Neophyte
Dutch Power Cows
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 11
Looking good..

On the + side,
  • Short tasks, even ancient tech will finish a task within 45 minutes
  • Matching short deadline of 30 hours or so.
  • Project runs a considerable amount of hardware themselves (teams "UH IT HPC" and "Henkelman Group") so they are not just admins but also clients.
  • Results are published

On the - side,
  • 2 task per thread limit, so no buffers which means that a hiccup in your connection to the project will cause your hosts to be out of work in a few minutes. (project maintenance, internet down, ...)
  • Low credit, but thats really a non-issue since everyone has that.


Like Zachariassen mentioned the short tasks/deadline and no buffering have a specific reason.

Last edited by Qazwaplol; 20th May 2012 at 04:06 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 23rd May 2012, 09:13 AM
Rusty Rusty is offline
Owner
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Posts: 11,333
Why doesnt this project have a bloody logo.. ahh..

Any photoshop guru wanna whip one up? ha ha ha, I will use the BOINC logo
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.