Pentagon - boeing ?

[KMS]

You decide (http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm)

[Mad Bad John]

Wasn`t the plane supposed to be a small private jet ?

[gypseyman]

It's an intriguing conspiracy theory...

MBJ's question is a good one, but even with that consideration, you still have to wonder where all of the fuel went. :xwtf: We've seen how devastating the results can be...

Gyp.

[Surgeon General]

That is probably the most bull $h1t site I have ever seen.( and take into acount that I think Elvis & Bruce Lee are still alive, and that the goverment killed JFK.
But back to this website, I can't remember all the suposubly "thought provoking" questions they asked and don't think the website is worth of a second look. The ones I do remembe are "why is only the outer wall dammaged and not the inner wall? you know, I is not an edumicated man, but would the space between the walls not serve to dicipate the force of the blast? Kinda like when we have a bomb threat on the ships, we go around opening doors so the blast will be weakened.
As to why they would be pouring sand on the grass, well maybe because there would be chemicles and all sorts of stuff on it from them driving over it. Maybe even a little jet fuel soakage. Or MAYBE because the people that where in charge of the clean up efforts knew that they where going to have to drive over the grass again and again, and what happens to soft earth and grass when heavey machines travel over it? Thanks right, it turns to soft muddy ****. and by pouring a little sand on it you get traction. (if the moron that tossed made this website ever drove his car on the lawn to was it, he would know that.)
you know, I could go on about the rest of the questions that I remember but I am getting ticked off even more so i think I will just go have a glass of wine (yes its only 7 am here but WTF)
latter all.

[jema]

There is actually a site that takes apart this web site bit by bit and exposes it as trash. But one of the problems with conspiracies is that it takes an awful lot of patience to deconstruct them and they are so easy to propagate.
Vast numbers of people in the World view Sep 11th as a Zionist conspiracy for example :rolleyes: It is so easy to invent things like the claim that Jews were told to stay away from the world trade centre that day, and so hard to disprove such claims :(
I was once an avid reader (as a young teenager) of the Aliens built the pyramids type of book (and it is all part of same ilk as the subject) . But then I read a couple of pieces by scientists taking apart some of the books bit by bit and exposing the pseudo science and downright fraud in them!
I think it is a great shame really, as there are real conspiracies as there are real archeogical discoveries to be made by people with the courage to look at things in radically different ways to the establishment view. But the swamping of the genuine by the BS prevents many valid ideas from being taken seriously.

jema

[gypseyman]

Ultimately, it's about perception and whichever theory finds favour best, isn't it..? Or with individual sensibilities. Presentation is the hook, just ask Labour (unfortunately...). The facts (or 'truths', if you prefer) too often become swallowed up in the morass of disinformation that is fed to us everyday, be it on TV, radio or through the print media.

We don't KNOW what happened at the Pentagon, regardless of how strongly we may feel about the subject. But unless you were a physical witness, you are forced to rely on the subtle propoganda touted as 'news'. It's nothing new, countries have done it for years.

The difficulty comes in deciding who's story to believe...

I wouldn't claim to be a conspiracy theorist. Worse, I'm a journalist. ;) And I've had first-hand experience of seeing a cover story spiral out of control, where tabloids feed off each other, twisting and distorting the 'facts' with each subsequent issue, to the extent that what we read in the papers becomes a shadow of the truth. I certainly don't read ANY of the red tops now for any trace of conviction, 'cos it doesn't exist.

Regardless, I think in this particular instance, they ARE barking up the wrong tree. But stranger things have happened...

The moon landing for one... :rolleyes:

:D :D :D

[jema]

To be sure facts get distorted by the media, as someone who is not a stranger to political activity I'm well used to being at a totally different event to the one that gets reported the next day :rolleyes:

It is even more fascinating, when you read books from opposing sides of an event you have good knowledge off and find that because a "fact" reported in one, also suits the political view of the other side it get confirmed and thus to all extents and purposes becomes a "historical fact" :( when you happen to know the truth to be far more inane and irrelevent :rolleyes:

jema

[gypseyman]

Originally posted by jema
To be sure facts get distorted by the media, as someone who is not a stranger to political activity I'm well used to being at a totally different event to the one that gets reported the next day :rolleyes:

It is even more fascinating, when you read books from opposing sides of an event you have good knowledge off and find that because a "fact" reported in one, also suits the political view of the other side it get confirmed and thus to all extents and purposes becomes a "historical fact" :( when you happen to know the truth to be far more inane and irrelevent :rolleyes:

jema

Zackly..!

It happens in any field where the need to protect the status quo (and associated power, reputations, grants...) is too often deemed more important than the truth itself.

History, Science, Politics... All are victims of the Establishment.

[Lolboy]

Still leaves the question 'where is all the wreckage of the aircraft?'

I wondered this myself when viewing tv pictures on that dreadful day.

Lolboy.

[Jetrunner]

i agree with lolboy....SOME things are preeeeety convincing.....

[Baptizer]

Hello
been busy with work/school...
There is indeed footage of the plane crashing into the pentagon. It was released by cnn about a few months ago. They were basically camera stills from a security camera that was outside. It does show a quick shot of the plane and a big explosion. Let me see if i can find it..