Standard Water Cooling

[blitz]

Well, I'm still thinking about watercooling... for 2 reasons. One, it's softer (well, atleast I think it is, heh)... Two, superior cooling. Actually, 1 is a little bit more important to me (of course I still want GOOD temps). Anway, I guess this is probably the most standard set:

Eheim 1250, Maze 2, Aquacoil, and a self built reservoir. All 1/2" fittings I would figure (all I would need is a 3/8" to 1/2" converter on the pump intake, right?). Vinyl tubing (home depot)

Anyway, is this a good started setup?

How loud will this be? (as compared to a standard hsf.... the more specific, the better)

And, any recommendations on where I should get this stuff? (I live in the US)

thanks.

[dicki]

that sounds like an excellent set up

the pump is effectivly silent so the noise of the system will depend on what fans you fit to the aquacoil you can get some very quiet ones now and if you fit a pot to them you can slow them down when the computers not working hard

dicki

[blitz]

oh, 3/8" vinyl tubing is what your supposed to use on a system with 1/2" fittings?

Ans what kind of hose clamos should I get? (anything else?)

[blitz]

oh, and how would I add a video + northbridge cooler? (I mean, how would I do the tubing... dual loop? can you explain)

[Player0]

I second dicki, that is a lovely start to a great water cooling system (probably the best money can buy these days). Definately use 1/2" ID (thats inner diameter) tubing.

Don't use a 3/8" ID to 1/2" ID adapter on the pump. My recommendations are to change the fittings on the pump itself (they are metric anyway, and dont fit well to american tubing).

So, for intake, you will need a Nylon 1/2" NPT to 1/2" ID Barbed tube fitting. For the outlet, you will need a Nylon 3/8" NPT to 1/2" ID barbed tube fitting. DONT use metal, and you will want to use teflon tape to ensure a good fit. The old adapters will unscrew, and you just screw the new ones in. DONT over tighten.

HomeDepot, Lowes, etc should sell the adapters. If you cant find them, use mcmaster.com ...seriously speedy shipping and full selection.

Oh hey, 1/2" ID vinyl tubing generally is 5/8" OD (outer diameter), so while you are at HomeDepot, pick yourself up some 5/8" Springy Tubeclamps. The larger diameter tubing is more prone to leaky connections. But the clamps prevent this. If you cant find clamps, i find small zipties work really well (at least 2, and stagger the 'joints'). Oh, the fittings can also be purchased in L shape, which is what I used for my pumps' outlets. L adapters are a must.

[Player0]

You can add a video/northbridge cooler either in serial or parallel to the waterblock. If the chipset cooler is a smaller diameter (3/8"), then you must hook it in parallel or it will harm your water flow. Get a Y or T adapter, and some 1/2" 3/8" tube adapters, and you can probably figgure the rest out. If the chipset cooler is 1/2" (highly unlikely), then just hook it in series, after your CPU block.

Honestly, I wouldnt do either unless you had chilled water. I have NEVER seen a northbridge or GPU benefit from water cooling, over one that has had a good quality HSF attatched. Unless again, it was chilled water.

[blitz]

Ok, is this what you are saying? (sorry for crude drawing, I am lazy in the morning)

[dicki]

no, i'll try and do it ascii art style :D

***______1/2"__________3/8"_
**|***************|*********|
Radiator*********3/8"****Graphics
**|***************|********3/8"
resovoir********north*_3/8"_|
**|*************************|
Pump************************|
**|************************1/2"
**|_____1/2"____*CPU*_______|

hows that?

dicki

Edit: that didn't work just ignore all the *'s

edit 2:

still dodn't work ok it's imagination time :)


start at the pump with 1/2" tube then into the cpu come out with 1/2" then into a splitter that takes 1 1/2" tube and turns it into 2 3/8" tubes each of these go to the graphics and north bridge, they then get rejoined into 1 1/2 " tube this goes into the rad then into the resovoir and then the loop starts again... easy... kind of :)

dicki

[blitz]

Ok, so more like this?

[blitz]

oh, dicki, if you ever need to do the ascii art stuff, use the code tags

[dicki]

yup thats exactly it

my art work in all forms sucks, so what do the code tags do?

dicki

[blitz]

dicki, the code tags make the text fixed width, so each character lines up... making it easier to draw.

for example (I sure will feel stupid if this doesn't work, hehe)


## ## ##''''##0#####%#####----##
## ## ##'#####0#####%#####-##-##
## ##'''###0#####%#####-##-##
## ## ##'#####0#####%#####-##-##
## ## ##''''##0000##%%%%##----##

[blitz]

and heres your ascii:


***______1/2"__________3/8"_
**|***************|*********|
Radiator*********3/8"****Graphics
**|***************|********3/8"
resovoir********north*_3/8"_|
**|*************************|
Pump************************|
**|************************1/2"
**|_____1/2"____*CPU*_______|

[blitz]

well, that does make sense now...

thanks for the help!

[dicki]

cool never realised you could do that

/me goes back to mod training school

[blitz]

hehe, I programmed my own complte forum (much like this one.. almost the exact same, feature wise.. but my runs better... but doesn't have all the easy to use stuff for admins) in php... so I actually know most of the forum commands :P

[blitz]

damn, aquacoil is out of stock until the end of february :(

[NorthernYankee]

Yeah I was gonna order one Yesterday too.

--NY

[blitz]

I have NEVER seen a northbridge or GPU benefit from water cooling

Hmm, so you think a crystal orb would be a better choice for the video and northbridge?

[jozzer]

I have always seen benefits......first off, less heat is thrown inside the case....so memory/harddisks stand a better chance of getting cooler air.Second the fans on gpu/northbridge are as loud as the cpu fan.....if you enjoy the benefits of peace and quiet from your watercooled PC then it is a must.....
Lastly....I had a ka7 (slot athlon) board once......with standard cooling on northbridge, it would run 120ish fsb......with a homemade waterblock, it saw 150 mgz....stable....for months......(on a 1/3 pci divider:D )
Most of the overclockers here with higher fsb scores you will find have at least reapplied Arctic silver to the northbridge heatsink, and are providing OPTIMUM case cooling.....and many have the northbridge watercooled.If I could make a waterblock for the ddr memory stick with the limited time I have at the mo, I would do it....I beleive it would make all the difference
:eek:

[blitz]

Doesn't the force of the water shake the cards, etc. ??

[jozzer]

If your joking.....LOL ;)
if not....no...there is little force on the water......and no vibration......which there IS with a fan....not to mention the extra load on the mobo powersupply caused by attaching 2 fans:eek:

[blitz]

hmm, ok, well I was just thinking that with so mach water going through a block, and the block slowing down the flow, I would espect there to be powerful vibration.