Water cooling question

[billg2911]

Hi all, I been asking around and cant seem to get a answer.
I been looking around for a water cooling kit when i ran across this its called COMPONENT FLUID INJECTOR Water flows directly on the the hot side of the CPU for instant cooling. Based on COMPONENT FLUID INJECTOR (tm) technology.

Would this type of cooling be a lot better then a block or peltier? I though water could not come in contack with the cpu

For a look at it go here it is at the bottom of the page

http://www.leufkentechnologies.com/watercooling.shtml

[lechumbl]

Hi Bill,

That is the same principle that Jozzer is using on his homemade direct cooling he has on his CPU.

If the CPU and resistors are waterproofed, there is nothing to touch the water, except the silicon body of the CPU, and that will not short out.

It is working well for him.

Perhaps he will see this post and respond.

I looked at the block and it is very awesome. I am going to investigate and give serious thought to getting the block only. I have the rest of the goodies. One note tho, it suggested a pump of 315 GPH or better for best performance.

It would cool better that regular block and be less of a hassle that Pelts.......no condensation problems.

[billg2911]

Hi lechumbl Ya that block looks awesome but i don't have all the water cooling goodies yet but working on it, right now i am looking at getting a kit from D Tek they have a set up using all 1/2 tubing it looks sweet

[blitz]

damn that looks cool, wish someone here had one and could give us a good review.

[billg2911]

blitz, I look around but could not find a review on it, if i do ill post it

[lechumbl]

Hi Blitz,

The whole kit they showed does not do too much for me. I am a BIG radiator person, and the one that is in the kit is very small, cooling wise.

The block looks like it would do a very good job on cooling.

As I said earlier, Jozzer has a direct cooling setup on his system, and he is very happy with results. That is the best, for the moment, as fas as a Review goes. Hopefully he will get back to us with more comment.

I think I will get the block only, and will keep all posted on some sort of progress. That's the best I can do.

Have a great day.

[jozzer]

Hmm.......seems exactly what I was doing....except that it needonly cost $1.50 ....not $44!!
Be carefull though....there are issues.I suffered from build ups of deposits (which of course occur directly on the core), and worse still, Dicki (who may also see this thread) lost his duron/kt7 when apparently the water seeped Under the core, and arrived at the back of the cpu.
The results are good, several degrees better than a copper waterblock useing the same pump/rad/cpu etc.
If you want more advice on how to build it on the cheap, give me a shout!.

[blitz]

thats what I figured, there would be weird problems doing it this way. And its just a few degrees different?... I'd probably think the better way would be just using a normal block... unless you just wanna try something new, and got the money to waste incase your CPU gets messed up.

[dicki]

dear god i would not use that on my rig!

i've been trying to figure out how it's mounted and from what i can see it's just a rubber gasket and some clamps :eek: scary!

when i did mine i used a marine epoxy to seal the "waterblock" down on to the chip (it was a ****** to get off) and i tried sealing the top of the chip with nail varnish. upon disasembling it when it died there was no water on the outside of the block but water on the underside of the chip and lots of corrosion around the pins. the top of the chip looked roughly okay... but all the nail varnish had flaked off (note to self... use proper waterproofing agent next time) and there was discolouring around the core itself as well as the calcium build up that jozzer mentioned (very very tough stuff... you'd need sandpaper to shift it) anyway this forces me to assume the water went in between the ceramic plate and the silicon, then down through the ceramic where the gold wires run to the legs of the chip. there was only a small amount of water in the bottom of the case (less than a centimeter) and it could have been leaking for several days, temps were 32c when it died and there was plenty of water in the resovoir.

anyway i'd be nervous using it, and considering i made my block for about £2 like jozzer i wouldn't spend the money on it

dicki

[billg2911]

well after reading what jozzer, & dicki had to say I guess I will stay away from it.

I have been looking around at a lot of kits and have decided to get the kit from D Tek the FLOWMASTER MAX

here is a look at it
http://dtekcustoms.safeshopper.com/2/25.htm?559

what do you guys think

[jozzer]

Don't get me wrong...its a great idea....and a few degrees of difference is VERY IMPORTANT (when you are saving only the temp difference between water and cpu).I believe it will beat any waterblock hands down......but don't buy that kit.....make it yourself!!I think Dicki's chip leakage was a one off!

[blitz]

lechumbl, make sure you post the results of the new block.. though, I'd also like to see what happens a few months from now (build ups, leaks, whatever)... the block is still very interesting.

[lechumbl]

Hi Blitz,

Will do.........

I think the idea is very sound as Jozzer and Dicki have found. The idea is sound, the application is what needs to be worked on.

I plan on making a few mods on it and will let all know.

[Player0]

Im interested in seeing a bonafide review of this thing as well. So far there is very little evidence it is any better than a standard block.

[dicki]

i think the idea is sound but it is a serious amount of hassle...

like jozzer said mine is the only one to leak in this way so far so it might be a one off or it might be that it did leak in some other way that i didn't motice (possible but i did check very carefully)

the biggest problem is the regular strip down and cleaning... i can't imagine that calcium build up being good for heat transfer

dicki