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DigiK-oz
25th July 2014, 09:39 AM
Since July 23rd, vault scores seem to be "stuck". No point changes whatsoever (for the top 10 teams I checked) whereas teams are definitely moving in the respective projects' rankings. For instance, [H]ardocp gained 6 places in primaboinca the past two days, not reflected in vault points.

Something broke, or I am overlooking something :)

Cheers,
DigiK-oz

Coleslaw
25th July 2014, 01:20 PM
Something is broke and Rusty has been made aware of it. Hopefully, he can find the problem shortly.

Coleslaw
26th July 2014, 03:06 AM
Looks like the stats are working again. :)

DigiK-oz
26th July 2014, 08:33 AM
Yup, great. Good work Rusty!

jondi_hanluc
1st August 2014, 09:32 PM
Looks like the stats server needs a kick again.

DigiK-oz
2nd August 2014, 09:14 AM
Indeed, scores are flatlining again

DigiK-oz
6th August 2014, 07:07 AM
Apparently, Rusty persuaded the stats to move again :)

Coleslaw
9th August 2014, 09:05 PM
[H]ard|OCP took 8th place in DIMES on the 4th but DC-Vault still shows us as 9th place.

http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=team&proj=dimes&team=[H]ard|OCP
http://www.dc-vault.com/showteam.php?team=98

DigiK-oz
12th August 2014, 11:01 AM
I do not know where Free-DC gets the dimes stats from, but the "volunteer statistics" page on the dimes website itself currently seems to be broken. If that is where dc-vault gets its stats from, that would explain why scores are stuck.

There is a thread (http://www.netdimes.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7001) on their forum about stats outage, the last complaint is dated July 27 2014.

Coleslaw
4th September 2014, 12:57 PM
The stats for DIMES still are not fixed. We are still showing up at 9th when we are in 8th place. Rusty, can you confirm how the Vault is getting the stats? I know the above mentioned page is still broken as of yesterday.

Rusty
5th September 2014, 08:17 AM
Nanobot has made contact and passed all the 'information' to FWC. He is going through the code now.

Are freedc's stats stuffed?

DigiK-oz
1st October 2014, 09:33 AM
Dimes now seems to have (still rather irregular) stats updates. Now, it seems the GIMPS positions are not being updated in dc-vault? Stats on the GIMPS website are being updated normally, though. However, the layout of the stats on their site has changed slightly, so maybe that's why vault scores for GIMPS are stuck?

Beyond
4th October 2014, 03:52 PM
Dimes stats were down for a week but the clients kept crunching normally. Stats updated fine as usual and are running smoothly (several updates per day) again.

shauge
9th October 2014, 10:33 PM
Now, it seems the GIMPS positions are not being updated in dc-vault?
Bump

Rusty
10th October 2014, 09:44 AM
To tell you the truth, I have no idea what deal has been struck.

I am waiting on advice. I am terrible sorry guys, hopefully we can get this fixed.

shauge
16th October 2014, 04:15 PM
To tell you the truth, I have no idea what deal has been struck.

I am waiting on advice. I am terrible sorry guys, hopefully we can get this fixed.

I just want to point out that the only reason that DPC has taken the lead this week is because of this stats bug (of the dc-vault stats).

Beyond
16th October 2014, 06:54 PM
I think you guys are all winners. It's a great race you're having for that 1st place spot. Keep it going!

Coleslaw
17th October 2014, 12:53 PM
shauge, we are all feeling the pinch and Rusty is working on it the best he can. All we can do is wait.

Rusty
18th October 2014, 06:11 AM
http://www.mersenne.org/report_top_500_custom/?team_flag=1&type=0&rank_lo=1&rank_hi=99999&start_date=1970-01-01&end_date=&B1=Get+Report
http://www.netdimes.org/data.php?getAll=GroupsByMeas

GIMPS and DIMES are stuffed because the stats link is stuffed.

shauge
18th October 2014, 07:29 PM
GIMPS stats seems to work with any newer date in search http://www.mersenne.org/report_top_500_custom/?team_flag=1&type=0&rank_lo=1&rank_hi=99999&start_date=1970-01-02&end_date=

Rusty
19th October 2014, 09:07 AM
and I received a email from PDW(OCUK)

http://www.netdimes.org/new/data.php?getAll=GroupsByMeas is the new link but it seems to time out.

EDIT: Seems the .org is down.

DigiK-oz
20th October 2014, 09:37 AM
For GIMPS, just replace the 1970-01-01 with any later date, and leave out the end date. The link shauge posted should work just fine. The link you posted for Dimes seems to be working fine now as well.

Though we (DPC) enjoyed hitting #1 for a few days, we know in real life we were still a few points behind :)

DigiK-oz
23rd October 2014, 11:58 AM
Any progress on this? DC-Vault is all about competition, so incorrect scores is kinda.....useless/disappointing. We require projects to have parsable stats for this reason, so now what? Do we kick dc-vault out of the vault? :(

Rusty
24th October 2014, 04:47 AM
Hi Digi: I can only offer my apologies, I have forwarded the new links to the code gurus, hopefully it will be fixed.

Coleslaw
25th October 2014, 08:38 PM
Looks like GIMPS and DIMES is now updating.

shauge
26th October 2014, 09:21 PM
Thanks for helping getting the stats fixed :)

Beyond
26th October 2014, 09:31 PM
+1

DigiK-oz
28th October 2014, 07:59 AM
Great, thanks!

DigiK-oz
28th November 2014, 08:18 AM
Folding@home stats are broken, screwing up the vault rankings :( Stats at Folding are correct, but vault scores for the project have gone haywire. Same happened on the 17th.

DigiK-oz
5th February 2015, 09:46 AM
Today, OGR-28 stats are screwing up our rankings :( Let's see if this "fixes itself automatically" tomorrow

Rusty
6th February 2015, 06:13 AM
More info needed please.
How?

DigiK-oz
6th February 2015, 08:30 AM
Well, could be just a hiccup in stats processing which could be OK today without intervention.

EDIT : Apparently not, OGR-28 stats are still screwing things up. Source stats at OGR-28 itself seem to be OK.

jondi_hanluc
6th February 2015, 10:37 AM
My team OcUK and many others are incorrectly showing as having no team for OGR-28 in the DC Vault stats. There are currently 335 teams with points on OGR-28 which should mean 29.85 pts per position, it's currently 244 pts per position for the few teams that are credited with a position, so something is very wrong somewhere.

Coleslaw
6th February 2015, 11:58 AM
I can contest. My team is not showing any points for OGR-28 and we have been bumped from 4th place down to 13th because of it.

Rusty
6th February 2015, 08:12 PM
Dutch Power cows - OGR says #7, Vault says #7?
[H]ard|OCP - Your Vault name is [H]ardOCP, the team name is HardOCP. If the project name doesn't exactly match the Vault name, it will not automatically add it. Lucky for you a team member has requested it manually and I have fixed it

(EDIT)
OcUK - Overclockers UK -Your team is added

jondi_hanluc
6th February 2015, 09:04 PM
I can contest. My team is not showing any points for OGR-28 and we have been bumped from 4th place down to 13th because of it.

You shouldn't have fallen that far even without OGR-28, It looks like your points from the different categories aren't adding up correctly.

Dutch Power cows - OGR says #7, Vault says #7?
[H]ard|OCP - Your Vault name is [H]ardOCP, the team name is HardOCP. If the project name doesn't exactly match the Vault name, it will not automatically add it. Lucky for you a team member has requested it manually and I have fixed it

(EDIT)
OcUK - Overclockers UK -Your team is added

There's just a number for out team name now, and still no points.

But there is still a lot more wrong, according to these stats (http://stats.distributed.net/team/tlist.php?project_id=28&low=1&limit=100) there are 335 teams so DPC in 7th should have 9,820 pts not the 8,563 that they are showing, their current score would indicate that there are only 40 odd teams on the project.

Rusty
6th February 2015, 11:51 PM
If the VAULT name = RedRabbits and the team created in the PROJECT is named Red-Rabbits(not the dash in between the Red and Rabbits), the Vault will not add it to the Vault RedRabbits team.

Lets take a real Vault team "Ars Technica"(For example, and it's the best)
There Vault name is Ars Technica -> http://www.dc-vault.com/showteam.php?team=34

Asteroids@home - the project team is called "Ars Technica" = The added this project automatically as it 'matched' the Vault entry
OGR-28 - the project team is called "Ars Technica Team Beef Roast" = Not a match, Vault did not add it automatically


Now... The Vault only updates twice a day, to reduce the pressure on projects.

So the 'numbers' next to the OGR-28 project is your team's number and I have manually added it after the last stats run and before the next.

With regards to the points vs number of teams.
I have noted the amount of teams in the DNETC link you supplied, however only 47 of those teams have had their project team added to the Vault entry. With may explain the incorrect point. I dont' know. Try it and find out.

Edit: Sorry click wrong button

So the math would be
Project score = 10000 - ((Position - 1) * (10000 / Total number of teams in the project))
10000 - (7-1) * (10000/47) - 8723.404255
Give or take a few yea? Depends if I counted the amount of team entered into the vault.

Coleslaw
7th February 2015, 12:00 AM
Rusty, I was the one that added it in case of the error. However, I'm still not seeing our points there. Even in 99th place we should still have Vault points but it is showing as zero.

jondi_hanluc
7th February 2015, 08:48 AM
Well my team has now dropped 49 places.

Totting up all the points from the different categories we should have 255,582 vault points, but we have instead 188,997 and like I said before I know that [H]'s don't add up correctly either, I can only guess that manually adding us has messed things up.

Current vault points awarded for OGR indicates that there are exactly 41 teams in the project.

EDIT: A team mate has come up with the reason why the massive points drop. The vault is currently only recognising 41 teams for OGR-28 and because we are in position 315 we have now have a negative score for OGR.

Coleslaw
8th February 2015, 12:31 PM
Looks like [H]'s score is adjusted now. Thanks Rusty.

DigiK-oz
9th February 2015, 05:04 AM
There are still problems....only 51 teams are recognized in the vault scoring for OGR-28. The lowest one is OcUk listed at #51, while their position at OGR is somewhere around #275. So it seems a lot of teams are missing from vault statistics.

EDIT: Things are improving (sort of) we now have 69 teams in the vault for OGR-28. So something is still broken :(

jondi_hanluc
9th February 2015, 04:04 PM
The points per position (29.76) is for 336 teams which is correct, my team (ocuk) is also ranked correctly with the correct amount of vault points. I see also 69 teams with points but of course not all teams with credit on OGR are listed on the vault.

Rusty
10th February 2015, 04:38 AM
Nothing is broken. I am manually adding everything.