Iwill XP333-R is here now

[Silversaver]

Hi guys,

I read the news by LC saying that Iwill XP333-R is here at Fry's Anahiem branch. On my way to pick up the Abit KR7A RAID I drive by Fry's...

YES!! Iwill XP333-R is here and only for $129!!! Of course I pick one up. It is a Rev. 2.0 rumer saying the Rev.2.1 will come with Vcore up to 2.05v in BIO setting... Good news is the Rev. 2.0 can be upgrade with BIO update.

I also pick one Corsair PC2400 CAS 2 256MB RAM for $59..

Guys, sorry I guess I will do Abit KR7A RAID next week... I am gonna work on XP333-R first. On my way home, I pick one 47K potentiometer from RadioShock....85 cents.....


I will post result soon:) WAIT!!!!

[Feiticeira]

nice work my good man, cant w8 to c the results
Dave

[Silversaver]

Hi guys,

I am about to start review this mobo tonight. First, I fail unlock my XP 1800+ with Defrogger kit.. but I will soon try again later.
Before I start, let me give you some information about this mobo. There are few jumper setting as: 100/133 FSB, sound, RAID, VIO (from 2.6v 2.6v and 2.7v.. those are only few jumpers that ou have to deal with. The board comes with clean design, but only 5 PCI device, but I guess it is about enough since lots component are on-board as 6CH sound and RAID.

The power connector was right beside MOSFE which it should give better 5v sinal to mobo. Only 3 fan connectors: CPU, chipset and system. The HSF on northbridge was a good solid design, so I probably use it without change to water block first since my northbridge waterblock were little bit unflate....

The BIO did not have Vcore all the way to 2.05v yet, still 1.85v, but I guess it wont be a problem since I am gonna do the voltage mod on Vcore. I guess it use the same as KK266R I had now. The board laybe is almmost the same as KK266R..

One thing I notice at onboard sound, it only has CD-IN and without AUX-IN, but who uses that anyway:)

Time for the setup now..... I think in few hours I probably have the result. This is what I am gonna use to review:

AMD XP1800+
Iwill XP333-R
Corsair PC2400 CAS2 256MB DDR
IBM GXP75 30 GB 7200RPM HD
Plextor 16X10X40 CD-RW
3COM NIC
Geforce2 MX 32MB AGP

Since I don't have ATA-133 HDs yet, so I will only provide result with single HD ATA-100 result. I will soon unlock the XP1800+ and to test the max FSB .

Later guys, which me luck:)

[Silversaver]

Hi guys,

OK, The XP180)+ is now unlock and I mod the vcore up to 2.19v (it still can go higher, but why..) WinXP setup and backup already made. Time for review now:)


I will post the OCing result soon:)

[Squeaky]

keep it coming Silver..looking good.

errr, would you like to send the system to me when you've finished with it, and i could, errrr, well, hummmm,....test it somemore ;)

[Silversaver]

Hi guys,

So far, it did not look nice at all....:mad: :mad: I am limited to 157FSB.... ARR!!! the BIO setting did not have 12.5X, but once I use 13X and it runs as 12.5X under windows...

Iwll really need a new BIO update for sure at this moment. The memory tweak menu really SUX!! Nothing you can do about it... Oh well I am gonna try different setting..... This guys say he git 200FSB... I really thought that now.........

More testing now....

PS. I am prety sure that the onboard temp probe has problem.... My full load temp around 35C ARRR!!!

[Silversaver]

Hi guys,

The XP333R did not really surprise me. The MAx speed I can acheive is 1870 100% stable. The highest FSB I can go is 169FSB CAS2. The HD benchmark on Sandra as same as usually.

My comment:

The boards seems to have really good design, but 1/5PCI and 1/6PCI did not work. I dunno about mem score casue I don't have other DDR mobo to compare with. The BIO is surely needed to improve. It perform as same as my old KK266R mobo with the advantage of DDR.... I think there is lots things need to improve on this mobo. But for price of $129. It could be a good buy for many of you.

If you have any additional question, please feel free to ask. At mean time, I am switching back to my trusty KK266-R to see what a unlock XP1800+ can do:)

I can also compare the result of my KK266-R with XP333-R side by side:)

I have posted few pics at "New Update" link under..... Just follow the link:)

[Silversaver]

Hi guys,

So far, there is not much different between KK266R and XP333R mobo. Both I can acheive about the same speed, but XP333R allow me to go all the way to 169FSB in CAS2..not max setting though. WIth max setting I can only acheive around 157 with FAST and 143 using Ultra setting.

The onboard IDE seems to runs pretty smooth under Window XP. The board runs pretty stable without crash running both Prime95 TT and 3DMax 2001 together. I am very impressive with the score on DDR, but I think KT266A at same FSB can acheive high benchmark. About the 1/5 PCI divdider. Yes, it is working only if you set at "AUTO" the menu setting yield bad memory benchmark.

One thing I have to mention about XP333R, when I run at 2.16V Vcore and the 5V line still have 4.92V under load. That is very good. Thanks for the power connector right next to MOSFETs.

The onbaord sound is very good...6CH wow:) I test the USB is working even at 169FSB. (I use USB device for mine IPAQ)

I think all of you might remember how VIA first came out the memory benchmark were really low..but now VIA kick asses. I am sure that ALi will have the new BIO to fix the memory benchmark issue.

The stock HSF on northbridge look really cool and it seems to do its job. Only 5PCI, but think about it... you got a SB Live quality sounds card onboard(hardware sound) without decrease of CPU performance unlike AC97 onboard sound.

Board's layout looks pretty good. It can take large HSF without problem. TH eonly issue I might consider bad is the FD connector were at most left right next to BIO if you are using FULL TOWER case with floppy drive on top of case. You better be sure you got one long cable to connect it.

The voltage mod is as simple as KK266R. The original PIN 7 mod:)

Menu wasn't as detail as KK266R, becasue it came with 3 menus. One for mobo, one for RAID and one for easy installation.

I am sure XP333R is as stable as KK266R, just the memory benchmark wasn't up PAR with KT266A yet, but I am sure with BIO update, it sure be one of th egood mobo that you should choose. For price tag of $129 for a 333DDR mobo, what else can you expected? Check the new price tag for Abit KR7A RAID.... You probably have to spend around $170 for it. With $40 more in price, can you really GAIN that much? I don't really think so since I got same OCing result for KK266R and XP333R.

Guys, remember. When you running your FSB above 166MHz, that mean you PCI device is running at 41MHz... pretty risky point... but for XP333R, it was a piece of cake. I am sure with a faster DDR, the memory will out performace any KT266A base mobo in the feature.

I have found someone did KR7A at 200FSB, but you think he can run 200FSB 24/7 stable? But for XP333R, it is POSSIBLE. It has 1/6 PCI divider with will bring PCI back to 33Mhz....

BTW, the are still timing setting for memory as 2clk/4 or 2clk/5....etc. AGP strange have set as "auto, high, mid, or low"

Abit fans might think Abit is always good. I believe that. But I am looking for a potential on XP333R. It was lots well design as KT266A. At least I think ALi will one day really kick VIA's ass. Just look at how VIA kick Intel's ass in chipset war...

[Silversaver]

Hi guys,

The PCI 1/5 divider is now confirmed working properly for XP333R mobo. Yes, when you go over 166FSB, it will aotomatically using 1/5 divider. But you have to set divider "AUTo" to work... Can't menaully set divider to 1/5....

I m not sure with 1/6 divider yet... cause so far I can only manage to run at 184FSB....... Still finding ways to get higher FSB...

I will post the result soon....

[Silversaver]

Hi,

Here is an interested link of XP333R

XP333R Review (http://www.xbitlabs.com/mainboards/iwill-xp333r/)

[BLOOD]

hmmm,

they bring up a valid point it is not true 333 but if the stability is there while over clocking the fsb it is still better than most boards out now plus ata 133
but i can see the marketing ploy from there standpoint

[Silversaver]

Hi,

333DDR which only means it will support PC2700 RAM at 166FSB. Yes, it is truely a 333DDR mobo which is has 1/5 divider. that bring PCI back to 33Mhz instead of 1/4 divider at 41Mhz PCI.

Missing anything here?

I think now people should be focus on type of RAM to get now... Both Crucial and Corsair were good, but they have limited. I believe a better RAM can acheive high stable FSB.

[Silversaver]

Hi guys,

I retest the XP333R with stock HSF. I can only acheive 176FSB with same setting. When I use waterblock on Northbridge, I can acheive 183FSB.

Well... with a stock HSF to acheive 176FSB, that was good already:)

[nemex]

Ýou might need an extra boost on the memory voltage to get that fsb up.
I'd say 3.0V would be great, but since the board doesn't give that high of an option..
Did you figure out any mods for the Vmem on this board?
Also, heatsinks for the ram is pretty good at this voltage.
(but im guessing you know that)
I should have mine in a week or so, be back with results :)

Cheers