BOINC - TANPAKU

[russkris]

I would really love to tell you all about it in Japanese.
From what I was told by Volker, it's a good Medical, and peeps who liked FaD might be interested....

An english page is beeing setup

http://issofty17.is.noda.tus.ac.jp/

English Page HERE (http://issofty17.is.noda.tus.ac.jp/index_E.php)

[NeoGen]

AMD Users would be very thankful if the Vault masters would add this one :D hehe

[Farley]

Farleyuser would be thankful if someone would stop finding new projects!!!

:banghead:

[Toutouf]

Could we have a previsional calendar about when new projects will join the Vault ?

If they have a quarantaine delay, or if they don't yet match the rules (and which rules)...

Once more : thanks for your job !

[russkris]

Nice Idea but when a project come up, we decide and Nano acts pretty much straight away, and then posts when it's happened..

[Biggles]

I don't this can be considered ready, since it uses BOINC version 4. Most people have upgraded to version 5 by now, as that is the current version. Berkeley stopped working on 4 ages ago and there are some unresolved issues. It also semi-limits the userbase, which would be against your criteria for inclusion.

[NeoGen]

In my oppinion it would only be limiting the userbase if there was some restriction on getting the software or creating accounts. The software is there and account creation is open so I think that argument can't be applied here.
One factor that can "semi-limit" a project's userbase is the complexity of use of the client software. Maths projects like for example SOB Sieve or PSP Sieve can be a bit complex to run, but then again that is only a psychological barrier, because anyone who has the patience to read the FAQ's and/or post asking help is perfectly able to run the projects.
And boinc 4 has as little (or as much) of complex as boinc 5, so it can't be pointed by that either...

And as a final note, the japs are smarter than us! Not only the Tanpaku devs as well as the Cell Computing devs who also use boinc v4. The last version of the v4 boinc platform had maybe a primitive scheduler but otherwise was rock solid stable, yet people jumped ship instantly when v5 came out, flashing its brand new functionalities, but underneath full of bugs and problems of all sorts, some of which are still being corrected today... go figure...

[russkris]

Volker just emailed me and pasted a english Link.... HERE (http://issofty17.is.noda.tus.ac.jp/index_E.php)

Thanks mate.. :thumbsup:

[NeoGen]

I noticed that Tanpaku's message boards are now open. But the fellows behind the project rarely appear there...

[Toutouf]

Tanpaku looks working fine.

And the "It's only Boinc V4 - it's not ready" is strange for me.

Most projects in the Vault don't run Boinc V5.
It's DC-Vault stats, not Boinc stats !

[russkris]

The version has nothing to do with it..

We'll start looking into it...

Thanks Toutouf

"TANPAKU" is the project that is aiming at attacking "protein structure prediction" problem by using "distributed computing" method. This project is developed in collaboration with Yamato lab.(in the Department of Biological Science and Technology) and Takeda lab.(in the Department of Information Sciences) groups at Tokyo University of Science. Now, the project finished a preliminary test within our university and it is open for public volunteers.

[lonewolfz28]

Farleyuser would be thankful if someone would stop finding new projects!!!

:banghead:

:wstupid:

[russkris]

and theres plenty more to come


:roflmao:




:cheerldr: :xpartyguy






:xsofa:

[Toutouf]

Still same question :

Could we have a previsional calendar about when new projects will join the Vault ?

[russkris]

We will look into it

but If you follow the step for addition (http://www.team-ninja.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=38400), that might put you on the right track. Still havent got any reports from people crunching it

[Toutouf]

Testing Phase: Multiple people from multiple teams test for a week to few weeks

Toutouf from Team-TNT says :

http://issofty17.is.noda.tus.ac.jp/show_user.php?userid=338

- Member since : 20 Apr 2006 (4 weeks ago).
- No problem to create team.
- Ran on Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz / Microsoft Windows XP
Home Edition, Service Pack 2
- No problem to get work.
- Don't remember any "server down"...
- Note that deadlines are very short on this project. Deadline = a couple hours. Tiny units (about 10 minutes). => Permanent internet connection needed.
- Except it only goes on old Boinc V4, I can't see anything bad on this project. But as I wrote before, many other projects are not running on Boinc V5 (SoB, Majestic-12, Eon, Grid, ... :D ).

Little team "AMD Users" is #8 of project. They certainly have more experience than I do.
May I suppose many other teams don't run it because "not in the Vault" ?
Sorry if nobody else posts about.
May be you have to add project, and wait people running on it, or shouting they don't like it... :(

[david]

My take on the "Not Boinc 5" thing is that it's a problem because it conflicts with other boinc projects, not just that it doesn't run Boinc 5.

You're right that M12 doesn't run Boinc5, but M12 doesn't prevent you from installing Boinc5 either. A project that only runs Boinc4 and thus blocks you from using Boinc5 is not cool.

(unless it's possible to run both 4 and 5 on the same machine? would be weird)

[Toutouf]

Projects that support Boinc 5 can be run with Boinc 4, don't them ?
I mean running Boinc 4 prevents running Boinc 5, but doesn't prevent you from running multiple Boinc projects.

[NeoGen]

Some boinc projects enforce v5, but most of them still allow running on v4.

[russkris]

Like I said before it doesn't matter which BOINC version a project runs with..

I will get on my bike and find out if the admin are happy

[Toutouf]

Did you lose your bike ? :D

[russkris]

No but maybe there admin did...


HERE (http://issofty17.is.noda.tus.ac.jp/forum_thread.php?id=25&sort=timestamp_asc)

Thank you for your advice. Please wait for our answers to your questions for a few days.

Tadashi Ando

There is nothing wrong with other people asking the question in the link provided ABOVE (http://issofty17.is.noda.tus.ac.jp/forum_thread.php?id=25&sort=timestamp_asc)


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[Toutouf]

Good job Russkriss ! You're kind a king on public relation. :)

Don't feel alone. I'm waiting with you :D

[russkris]

News

June 15, 2006

Important!

TANPAKU server will be down from 21 June to 22 June for upgrade and
maintenance. You will use BOINC client version 5.
This sounds great.. We have the Okay from the Project admin for the addition into the Vault

[Toutouf]

DC-Vault Team-TNT.net is called Team-TNT on TANPAKU. :bateyes:

And a very big :D .

[russkris]

:lol:

[KAMCOBILL]

Project TANPAKU is up and running on 5.4.9

[russkris]

:woot:, thanks for the update

[Toutouf]

Project TANPAKU is up and running on 5.4.9

I switched all nodes to TANPAKU / Boinc 5.4.9 since a day.
(Ok from Intel_PIII with W98SE to Intel_Pentium4D with XP_Home).

It's running real fine !

You can go to http://issofty17.is.noda.tus.ac.jp/view_profile.php?userid=338 and recommend my profile for User of the Day if you don't have time to join Team-TNT ! :bateyes:

[russkris]

There has been a draw back with the additon of TANPAKU.. They havent got any stats...

[Toutouf]

There has been a draw back with the additon of TANPAKU.. They havent got any stats...

I read stats here :
http://issofty17.is.noda.tus.ac.jp/top_teams.php?sort_by=total_credit

But you certainly mean they don't provide sql or txt files to make your own stats.
I understand.

Then no Tanpaku on the Vault this week... :sigh:


PS : How is it my sig is now on all my new posts on this forum ? It used to be only once per topic !

[russkris]

yup that means no TANPAKU this week...

and re your sig.. Only you see a sig in each post. Everyone else sees 1 per topic..

[Toutouf]

You know what ?

This one is no more empty :
http://issofty17.is.noda.tus.ac.jp/stats/

And you know what it means ? :bateyes:


:xparty:

[Toutouf]

Better :
Also, the results are available on the account page now!

Thanks Tanpaku Admin. :hug:

[russkris]

:woot:, I will have a look asap

[Toutouf]

It's now official at Tanpaku :
http://issofty17.is.noda.tus.ac.jp/index_E.php


News
June 30, 2006
Data describing the users, teams, and computers participating in TANPAKU, and how much work each has done, is available as compressed XML files. You can download the files here (http://issofty17.is.noda.tus.ac.jp/stats) in the Other statistics (http://issofty17.is.noda.tus.ac.jp/stats.php) page. These files are updated every 24 hours.

[russkris]

Thanks for the info.... :thumbsup:

[DigitalConcepts]

Pls associate Ars technica:Ars technica - thx

[russkris]

Yup! No worries... I have done that...
But if ya fill out the request (http://www.dc-vault.com/update.php?do=update) form, it comes right to my inbox ;)

But it's done :thumbsup:

[DigitalConcepts]

I made a note for future reference.

Thx again.

[Toutouf]

:welcome: Ars technica !


This was our "how dc-vault helps little projects getting new members" of the day :D

[StoneGnome]

Rusty

You didn't add Team Ninja to the vault.
I know I'm the only member with points so far, and not very many.
But you know what us Gnomes say, lots of little steps...

[russkris]

Sorry dude, When I added TANPAKU to the vault, there was no team ninja, thats why I added the team "Protein structural analysis room Japan".. So not to be seen as takeing favour to any 'other" team...

But thanks for the heads up... Added now

[Toutouf]

:welcome: Ninjas !

[Toutouf]

:welcome: Boinc @ Austria

Tanpaku and SAP on same update :thumbsup:

[russkris]

And Russia

[Wadmic]

Too early...

[russkris]

:scratch: