XP is awesome

[AMD Man]

Well so far so good, I love this OS it is totally differnet than what i am use too... It is great, right now i am easin it in with the o/c right now I am sitting at 1500 10*150 and my mem scores at this fsb are 868/1072... I will bump my fsb up alittle and see what happens:) But for all you guys who have not yet upgraded, It is time to do so, def. worth the money:D

[AMD Man]

I have just taken my fsb up to 156, so now I am at 156*10 and now my mem benchs are at 902/1119, Geez I can't belive that this OS is improving my benchs that much, I am gonna try higher than 156 and take my multipler up to 10.5 and see what happens..

I mean geez my ALU are already up by over 40:) and I am only at 1560 and this cpu will do 1640:D

[Baptizer]

what was yoru fsb on the previous operating system? just curious

[Pistol]

Which version of XP are you useing AMD Man?

[lechumbl]

Hi Hack,

Now you see why I have been raving about this OS for several months.

It is indeed awesome!!

There are some drawbacks to it, but overall, it is the best and most solid that Mickey Soft has done, so far.

Besides, it better be the best, since Win9X is no longer being made.

Have fun!!

[AMD Man]

Version 2002 and I was running my system at 156*10.5=1638:D

[lechumbl]

Hi Hack,

Are you sure the version is 2002?

That is a pre-pre-pre-beta version.

Beta 2 was, I think Build 2526, and RTM is Build 2600.

[AMD Man]

Yeah thats whay it says in my system properties:(

[lechumbl]

Sorry Hack,

I misread the thread.....

He asked what version you had, and indeed, you do have VERSION 2002.

I read what version, as in build number.

The nice thing about being old, is that you can screw up and everybody says, "That's OK, he's old."

[Berkswolf]

Originally posted by lechumbl

The nice thing about being old, is that you can screw up and everybody says, "That's OK, he's old."


Hey, thats worked for me for years!! :D:D

[AMD Man]

Oh build number would be 2600:D

Ya know Lee, vision is the first to go:rolleyes:

[lechumbl]

Hack and Berks,

What?????????

If you be interested in upgrading, private email me.

Later Guys, I think.

[RanGer498]

yup most of my friends are raving about this too so what are the draw backs !

i know my friend told me something about if you upgrade your nic card you have to contack ms for a # whats the deal on that !

so what to do to get a full version any help ;)

[lechumbl]

Hi Rangerman,

There are several ways to get a version of the WinXP program:

(1) You can purchase it for 299.95 for a full Professional version, 199.95 for an upgrade Professional version, 199.95 for a full Home Edition version, or 99.95 for an upgrade Home Edition.
(2) You can find someone who has a version, and get a copy from them. BUT, you can not activate it, so it expires in 120 or 180 days, depending on if it is .fre or not.
(3) You can find someone who has a "hack" version, which will not expire, does not need activation, and will not put the "Evaluation Build 2600" message in the right bottom of the screen.

That's about it, as far as getting a version.

You asked about activation and changing hardware. According to MS, it is not necessary to get a new activation number on hardware upgrades. This is not true. I changed my mobo and had to reactivate. I changed my memory and had to get new activation.

I don't want to get in trouble with the admins here for saying this , BUT, in my opinion, it is worth getting a "h....." version.

No muss, no fuss, no problems.

Take care, and type at you later.

[crono]

Too bad they stole a picture of the teletubbies backyard for their basic wallpaper.

[RanGer498]

lechumbl had to edit something in your post (forum resons ;))
sorry ..

question ??

what the diference in home and pro-version!
by the way thanks ;)

[lechumbl]

Hi Ranger,

Actually, since I didn't tell how or where the "hacked" version is, I did not break, or even bend the forum rules.

But that is OK, I play well with others.

As I get older, I get easiier to get along with.

Later.

[RanGer498]

what is hacked ;)

[AMD Man]

Hey Lee I have a friend who has one copy of XP on two diff computers and both are activated.. What gives.. one is on a desktop and the other is on a laptop, one is registered and activated and the other is just activated...

[lechumbl]

Hi Hack,

Beats me.........never heard of being able to legally activate it on two systems.

But, knowing MS, they probably don't keep good enough records to see it is on TWO systems.

Just a guess?

[GenAye]

I heard from a computer show that went to the xp conference, that you can have a copy of xp on your laptop and desktop. So it's legal but I am not sure why :)

[lechumbl]

Hi GenAye,

It makes sense that your laptop would have the same progs as your desktop, specially if it is corporate version.

Those businessmen (and businesswomen) need to have duplicate access to all files when traveling, etc. They have the "Briefcase" ability in the OS.

Thanx for the reply.

[VotTak]

There is a WinXP 6in1 CD( created by smart guy who wanted to help ) which holds 6 flavours of WinXP.

Some of them are ... let's say 'bended' the way it will change activation day each time you reboot your machine. No activation needed therefore. No popups.

I believe I did not break forum rules as I have never mentioned Where and how to get this "6in1".

[JohnyX]

You forgot to mention that you can order XP Pro from Microsquishie for around $55.00 (includes shipping) if you are a Microsoft Solutions Provider. Which I am of course. ;) They even throw in a lava lamp.

[lechumbl]

Hi JohnyX,

Heck, I go over to Microsoft almost daily and I get my WinXP Pro from them for nothing.

BUT, most people don't have the ability to do that, or are not Solution Providers, so they must do it "the old fashion way."

Later

[VotTak]

Yup... that is true... "the old fashion way."

[Dewill]

Originally posted by RanGer498
lechumbl had to edit something in your post (forum resons ;))
sorry ..

question ??

what the diference in home and pro-version!
by the way thanks ;)

Hi I also am interested in whats the diff between pro and home ?
Thanks guys
Regards
Jed;)

[BigBen]

Originally posted by Dewill


Hi I also am interested in whats the diff between pro and home ?

Also what is an average install in MB or is it GB?

Regards

[Dewill]

Well come on guys, what's it to be home or pro ?


Thanks
Regards
Jed;)

[Pistol]

from what I have been seeing around the net,pro seems to be the way to go,pro would be like win2k,where home would be like win98,a little on the expense side tho,I'm sure someone with more knowing will chime in here

[Baptizer]

Feature--------------------------------Home Edition---- Professional Edition
Backup and Automated Recovery---------- No------------------ Yes

ClearType Font Rendering--------------- Yes----------------- Yes

Dynamic Hard Disk Support-------------- No----------------- Yes

Default File System------------------------ FAT32------------- NTFS

DirectX 8.1 Libraries----------------------- Yes---------------- Yes

Encrypting File System Support--------- No----------------- Yes

Fast User Account Switching------------- Yes----------------- No

Faxing Capabilities------------------------- No------------------ Yes

Integrated CD Burning--------------------- Yes---------------- Yes

Internet Connection Firewall------------- Yes----------------- Yes

Internet Information Services (IIS 5)--- No------------------ Yes

Multiple Language Support--------------- No------------------ Yes

Multiple Monitor Support (DualView)--- No------------------ Yes

Processor Support----------------------- Single---------------- Single or Dual

Remote Assistance----------------------- Yes------------------- Yes

Remote Desktop Connection----------- No--------------------- Yes

Remote OS Installation------------------ No--------------------- Yes

Supported Upgrade Paths ---------Windows 98/SE
------------------------------------------Windows ME -------------Windows 98/SE
------------------------------------------------------------------------Windows Me
------------------------------------------------------------------------Windows NT 4
------------------------------------------------------------------------Windows 2000

Task Manager Network Monitor-------- No--------------------- Yes

Wireless 802.11b Support-------------- Yes--------------------- Yes

[Baptizer]

Sorry that chart is a bit unaligned, but i think you can make it out. Basically the 'big'(although i consider these far from BIG, but these are the differences) differences are:
-Remote Desktop(exactly what the program PCANYWHERE does)
-Dual-processor support
-View network shares offline(You can set XP Professional to automatically cache specified network shares at logon for availability off-line)
-Encrypting File Support (EFS)(XP Professional can encrypt files and folders with a random and unique encryption key.....but unless you work for AREA-51 or NASA or something, i highly doubt this option is that enticing).
Hope this info helps.......

[BigBen]

Thanks Baptizer :) any idea what the average install size is?

Regards

[crono]

One of xp's best features is virtually crash free. If a program does start to crash instead of locking your computer up, and running scandisk it simply informs you of the problem and shuts the troublesome program down.

[Baptizer]

NT and 2000 and auto 'crash-prevention' also. But XP has added a WORTHLESS and ANNOYING feature. Everytime something seems to crash(atleast for me), a pop-up pops up asking if you want to send the information to Microsoft. Annoying!

I am going to guesstimate that the installation size is similar to win2k and such. If i can recall, after i installed xp i checked to see the size. I think it was close to like 1 gig.....i am going to safely assume it is between 700mb to 1.2gig in size...

[BigBen]

EEK!! :eek: thats quite an install

Regards

[VotTak]

For 3 users it takes about 2GB.

[Pistol]

Hiya VotTak (For 3 users it takes about 2GB) I dont get this part,can you explain this ,is that three users per machine?

[lechumbl]

Hi Pete,

What he means is if you have three users, it takes 2 gigs of space.

You can have as many users as you want, or as few.

Each user has their own desktop and settings, customized by each user.

The more users, the bigger the program.

Sorry VotTak, but you were not home, so I helped, I hope.

[Pistol]

Oh OK I wont need that thanks

[Baptizer]

ya know, i am going to have to totally disagree...i find it hard to believe(almost impossible) that for 1 user the size is around 1 gig, and for 3 users the size is almost 3 gigs. That is around 1 gig per user. Settings are no where NEAR that in size(and i mean NOWHERE NEAR). In other words, i think votTak's post is utter proposterous.......and pretty much near impossible.

[lechumbl]

Hi Bap,

I think the size may be correct.

It depends on what progs he has installed.

I have one user on my XP and it is almost 3 gigs big. I have a lot of progs that use or operate through XP, so he could very well be that big.

When I was running Win2K the normal install was 1.2 gigs, but mine was closed to 2 gigs big.

[Baptizer]

Woa.......we are talkin about normal xp installation......isnt that what bigben wanted to know? My fault...i guess i was more referring to the fact that you can set up 3 users, set up their options(not including programs...christ, a game takes up 1gig on average). Basically though, votTek is referring to his own situation.....personally i have 3 users, and it takes up 6gigs.....this is such a varying number, its close to pointless to share to someone that wants to know how much xp takes. We can be here all day while everyone reports in....but the facts remain the same, xp can be installed at around 1gig and you can set up as many users as you want and itll still be around 1gig...

[lechumbl]

Hi Bap,

Agree, approximately 1 gig for "normal" install.

[BigBen]

Thanks for the info chaps :)

Regards

[Pistol]

OEM ? what does that mean for this OS besides Original Equipment Manufacturer
persay Microsoft Windows XP Professional - Full version oem

what is there a Microsoft Windows XP Professional - Full version Retail also,whats the diff?

[crono]

It means microsoft will not cover your warranty only the vendor will give you whatever warranty they advertise as oem. I recently had a problem with a 1.33 oem with a 1 yr warranty I called vendor thet said AMD would honor the problem. NOPE amd told me unless it was the full retail version they could not and to contact the vendor again so I did and they agreed to replace the chip at current value less 10% restocking fee. I think unless you pay full retail you lose certain rights from the maker. Its like you dont get cookies in the 2nd class but 1st class does(seinfield anagoly) this is how the two parties explained it to me but with a os I think your risks are low talk to lechumbel he will open your eyes.

[VotTak]

Thnx to lechumbl for covering me...
:D
I just wanted to give you a rough idea how much space does it take a fresh installation for 3 users.
And I do not have additional programs installed because I always partition my drive as
C: System
D: Games
E: Programs
F: Downloads.
So, when I was talking about 2GB I meant the size of C: drive which has OS installed and nothing else.

[Baptizer]

exactly why does adding two users almost double the amount of space needed to install the WHOLE operating system? This is so not logical .........not sure on exactly what is going on. Personal settings/etc do not require that amount of diskspace, no where remotely near that...
When i installed xp, i created 4 users(Admin, Me, Brother, Girlfriend) and it nowhere approached 2gigs in size......and that was for 4 people(when it should be near 2.5gigs going by what you are saying). I am surely wrong...maybe i never paid attention after i created the users........but i would just like to know why it increases so much....settings and such shouldnt take up that much diskspace......sigh..just confused ..

[Pistol]

I'm pretty sure that he means that his C: drive is 2 gigs capacity,as a partition,not as an OS application

[Baptizer]

OOOOH...
thanks for clearing that up pistol.......i unfortunately do not partition my drives.........next time i might have to do that!

[VotTak]

Sorry guys I gave you wrong info here:
"So, when I was talking about 2GB I meant the size of C: drive which has OS installed and nothing else."

read it as
"So, when I was talking about 2GB I meant the size of OS installed on C: drive. "
Some clarification...
C: drive does not contain any other program which does not belong to WindowsXP besides TweakXP( couple megs size.)
Although it still contains temporary Intermet files. I set it to 100MB. You can consider it as another space eater.
I am not sure how much space was taken by "restore" "feature" of OS. But it is definitely a space killer.
All I noticed that space used on C: drive( let's call it OS )... so OS was taking a little bit less than 2GB on initial install for 3 users. After "Microsoft Updates" and a couple days of working on this machine ... used size went a little bit over 2GB.
On both my machines I got 3 users and on both machines OS takes the same size with precizion of 100-150MB.
So the size for 3 users is pretty precise. Too bad I did not notice what was the size on initial install.
I believe that someone else will take it over from here.
Again, sorry for giving you the incorrect info.
English is still my second ( or better say third ) language.
:p

[Dewill]

Thanks Baptizer for the info on XP an the rest of you guys.
Regards
Jed
;)

[Terminal Error]

hey all,
I upgraded to XP about 3 days ago.
And i love it.
Even though i have had a few problems.....Motorola SM56 Modem and Pioneer DVD probs...but i'l fix it sooner or later.....
Also i came from Win M.E. so its a huge difference....from crashing 8x a day to none at all.

personally, i hated micro$oft and even now won't tell my mates that i actually like a micro$oft product.:D

~TE

[tripodal]

I believe microsoft is evil. but what can be done about it? we cant have 10 different operating systems running around all dumb .. no standardisation... think about apples... macs... pcs...
how the heck woud you expect all 3 to work for a lan party
not gonna happen
thas how

i hate the way microsoft has made us need it
(tho i would have done the same thing for 60bn dollars)maybe...

[billg2911]

Originally posted by Baptizer
NT and 2000 and auto 'crash-prevention' also. But XP has added a WORTHLESS and ANNOYING feature. Everytime something seems to crash(atleast for me), a pop-up pops up asking if you want to send the information to Microsoft. Annoying!



Hay Baptizer here is how to stop that pop up

Open Control Panel
Click on Preformance and Maintenance.
Click on System.
Then click on the Advanced tab
Click on the error reporting button on the bottom of the windows.
Select Disable error reporting.
Click OK
Click OK

[Jetrunner]

does anyone know how to increase the package recieving size for internet use? (for windows xp pro)?
it would sure be great cause im getting jipped on my dsl speed and i want it faster!!!!!! thx

[Jetrunner]

QUOTE:
Hay Baptizer here is how to stop that pop up

Open Control Panel
Click on Preformance and Maintenance.
Click on System.
Then click on the Advanced tab
Click on the error reporting button on the bottom of the windows.
Select Disable error reporting.
Click OK
Click OK


thx billg for that,, i didnt ask for it, but it sure was getting on my nerves also,,, thx

[tripodal]

go to properties of your network adapter... then configure on the approiate network card.. then the advanced tab.. this is
for win 2k
im assuming that win xp would be somewhat similar...although i wouldnt be suprised if it wasnt built in already

[Baptizer]

thanks billg2911!!!
One more annoyance down, 123,454,119 to go!