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Chops
16th November 2003, 08:13 PM
Firewalls set to become illegal in many American states

Legislation by the ignorant


By Arron Rouse: Friday 28 March 2003, 13:21

AN INTERESTING PIECE of news has surfaced that will have sys admins fainting in disbelief. Eight states have put forward bills that would have a devastating effect on network security and even networks themselves if they come to pass. The wording in the bills is dumb enough that firewalls could become illegal.
The news about the bills was brought to our attention by Edward Felten, more famous for having a go at a different Bill. The states in question are Texas, Massachusetts, South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Alaska, Tennessee and Colorado. The proposed legislation is intended to extend the much loathed Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA).

Felten is definitely used to legal issues, having presented evidence against Microsoft in the antitrust trial. According to his news article on Freedom to Tinker, the various states bills all require the banning the use of any technology that conceals "the existence or place of origin or destination of any communication." It doesn't take much to think that firewalls, routers, network address translators and many other pieces of standard kit all do exactly that. Unless the bills are radically changed, the Internet could effectively become useless in those states.

The wording in the bills is almost certain to change once the correct pressure is applied but it just goes to show what happens when you leave legislators to their own devices. You can find Felten's full article here (http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/archives/000336.html). It includes links to the text of three different states' proposed legislation.

Meadmaker
16th November 2003, 08:30 PM
Moral of this story - never, ever trust politicians to serve any useful purpose.

Terminator
16th November 2003, 08:34 PM
:eek: whatever next !!

Ragnarog
16th November 2003, 09:04 PM
Afaik this bill has been around for over a year now with that wordking and it seems nothing's changed about it ..yet... :rolleyes:

Rag

jema
16th November 2003, 09:30 PM
:rolleyes:

jema

krucibus
17th November 2003, 01:24 AM
It's too ridiculous... no way. I say, "Make me!"

speculative
17th November 2003, 04:25 AM
I have a question: If I send a letter through the mail with no return address, will they send it? Seem sthe same thing should apply to postal mail, then. But I've always thought that they would send it through the postal mail. I could be wrong, though.

I wouldn't count this bill as down N out just yet - many bills get passed as "riders" - Congress does 95% of the bill passing at the very end of the game, after all. Things can get hairy then.

What I am infuriated about is that this bill effectively hands children over to pedophiles! How? If people can look up where a chat room communication originates from, the pedophile could look up a kids' address and pay them a visit. Farking insane if you ask me. I watched part of the Republican's trying to break the Democrat's fillibuster, and let me tell you the incompetency of some of these "lawmakers" is enough to make one sick...

-spec

Tweety
17th November 2003, 07:23 AM
The shortsigthedness of the average politician or lawmaker is scary...

BigBen
17th November 2003, 07:39 AM
Why don't they just ask you to leave your front door open with a big welcome sign to all the burglars :rolleyes:

Regards

Dave S
10th December 2003, 06:17 AM
Firewalls set to become illegal in many American states

Legislation by the ignorant


By Arron Rouse: Friday 28 March 2003, 13:21

AN INTERESTING PIECE of news has surfaced that will have sys admins fainting in disbelief. Eight states have put forward bills that would have a devastating effect on network security and even networks themselves if they come to pass. The wording in the bills is dumb enough that firewalls could become illegal.
The news about the bills was brought to our attention by Edward Felten, more famous for having a go at a different Bill. The states in question are Texas, Massachusetts, South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Alaska, Tennessee and Colorado. The proposed legislation is intended to extend the much loathed Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA).

Felten is definitely used to legal issues, having presented evidence against Microsoft in the antitrust trial. According to his news article on Freedom to Tinker, the various states bills all require the banning the use of any technology that conceals "the existence or place of origin or destination of any communication." It doesn't take much to think that firewalls, routers, network address translators and many other pieces of standard kit all do exactly that. Unless the bills are radically changed, the Internet could effectively become useless in those states.

The wording in the bills is almost certain to change once the correct pressure is applied but it just goes to show what happens when you leave legislators to their own devices. You can find Felten's full article here (http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/archives/000336.html). It includes links to the text of three different states' proposed legislation.

what r they like, dumb & dumber springs to mind :rolleyes: doh!!!