The Two Towers

[speculative]

Great film! No spoilers in this post here, post below if you want but be sure to give warning. ;) I mean, it was a sure bet, but just wanted to let everyone know 'ole Peter Jackson pulled through again. Can't wait for Return of the King. :thumbsup:

-spec

[BigBen]

Jackson was giving a TV interview and for him the third film is the his favourite :D I can't wait to see how they reproduce some of it ...... more great battles ..... the path's of the dead section etc ..... They still left out the part with Tom Bombadil from the first one which i like, and in the extended DVD version they have added some important little bits such as the gifts they recieve in Lothlorien which do have a bearing later on

Regards

[Rids]

Hmmmm, I need to read the book yet again :D
First time took me two and half days (solid) but I'll take my time this time I think :D

[CyberdynSystems]

Excellent movie! :D

I loved it. The Trees!!!!

[Bozo]

Originally posted by BigBen
in the extended DVD version they have added some important little bits such as the gifts they recieve in Lothlorien which do have a bearing later on

Regards

The bit of the book i am currently re-reading :)

[The Therion]

Great film.It deserved better music though.Dont get me wrong,the music was very good in most parts.But at least for the battle of Helm's Deep i 'd like something more epic.I mean ....with all that visual glory YOU GOTTA have glorious music !

I hope the 3rd will do better in that part.All the rest was terrific.



PS: no actually i'd also like Gandalf doing more stuff :D

PS 2 : oh and a bit more slashing members and heads rolling on the ground scenes :D

[CyberdynSystems]

Therion,.. I couldn't agree more,.. (well actually I guess I could) about the Music.

I find the Music for the movies quite tedious. It really bothered in the first film,. and as the pace of the film increased so much for the two towers,. I thought it was even more of a diservice to have what I consider to be a rather monotenous and droning soundtrack accompanying such a great film.

It really grated on me.

Oh well,. but a great movie.

[NickBrownsFan]

Finally saw this and I have to agree it was great. Cant wait for the 3rd movie. :)

[speculative]

Hmm, really? I thought the music was ok. I guess I didn't really notice it, what with the trees walking around and all the film was a bit distracting. ;)

:lol:

-spec

[Fallguy]

I have to say,
I really listen to a films sound track, and take careful note of the composer at the end. I occasionally even buy the soundtracks on CD. Lets just say I won't be buying Lord of the Rings - the music is very so-so. Its a real shame they couldn't get a good backing track from Jon Williams (and if you don't know he wrote the track for Star Wars, you definately deserve to be shot), or any of the other great musical composers such as Basil Pouledouris (Conan the Barbarian, the Hunt for Red October, Starship Troopers), James Horner (Aliens, and at least one more whose name escapes me), Alan Silvestri (Predator, Judge Dredd), Jerry Goldsmith (The 13th Warrior).

The music is easily the weakest part of LOTR.... :(

Fallguy

[CyberdynSystems]

Iagree Fallguy. I think ,. in retrospect,. some of the problems I had with the "Fellowship" was more Music than Pacing. Really,. I watched it again on Video and found the that the bland music played a much bigger impact on the overall tone of the movie than one might expect.

It's good that you pay attention to the soundtrack,.. as I think we forget or never notice what an Impact the music can have on the whole experience. Interestingly the simplest "themes" can be the most effective. (John Carpenters musical abominations come to mind. Pure crap but perfectly effective!)

Danny Elfman is another one to ad to your list. In his case I would probably never buy the soundtrack,. but the way his music works with the films he writes for is pretty much flawless.

Vangelis who did Blade Runner among others is also worth mentioning and of course the ubiquitous and too often imitated Tangerine Dream...

[speculative]

Lol! Don't think that I never pay attention to soundtracks. :p I also like Michael Kamen's work. But, during my first viewing of tTT, I wasn't as interested in the music as I might be in further viewings!

-spec

[Fallguy]

Originally posted by CyberdynSystems
Iagree Fallguy. I think ,. in retrospect,. some of the problems I had with the "Fellowship" was more Music than Pacing. Really,. I watched it again on Video and found the that the bland music played a much bigger impact on the overall tone of the movie than one might expect.

It's good that you pay attention to the soundtrack,.. as I think we forget or never notice what an Impact the music can have on the whole experience. Interestingly the simplest "themes" can be the most effective. (John Carpenters musical abominations come to mind. Pure crap but perfectly effective!)

Danny Elfman is another one to ad to your list. In his case I would probably never buy the soundtrack,. but the way his music works with the films he writes for is pretty much flawless.

Vangelis who did Blade Runner among others is also worth mentioning and of course the ubiquitous and too often imitated Tangerine Dream...

Funny,
just after I typed that list I thought "Damn, I missed Danny Elfman"...... you must have read my mind..... :D

I think music can very much make or break a film - whether you like it or loath it, Starship Troopers was very much made by the music, and the main scenes had some fantastic backing (try listening to the drop on Klendathu without the music, it just isn't anywhere near as gripping). And the backing to Conan the Barbarian makes the film again, and I have to admit I really thought they would have something similar in LOTR when they were down the mines of Moria, in the book it emphasises "the drums", but the backing music at that scene really drops the ball. The use of music to build involvement and tension is very underrated in modern films, but look at all the really succesful films - Aliens, Bladerunner, Terminator, Predator, Gladiator (Hans Zimmerman, although I rather thought the main theme to Gladiator was ripped off one of the sub themes from The Rock), Star Wars, um, well I could go on here. They all have amazing sound tracks, and that to me is the difference for LOTR between being a good film (it is) and being a great film.

Fallguy

[The Therion]

I think Poledouris who has written perhaps the most epic themes,colud have helped more.

In LOTR the visual is far greater and more glorious than the audio...

[Fallguy]

Originally posted by The Therion
I think Poledouris who has written perhaps the most epic themes,colud have helped more.

In LOTR the visual is far greater and more glorious than the audio...

I would say that its probably a close contest between Pouledouris and Jon Williams for the title of most epic theme. Jon Williams has done some cracking themes in his time (even if you ignore Star Wars), such as Jurassic Park, The Mummy, and a few more who's names escape me.... damn brains like a sieve today.

Fallguy

[jema]

Finally got to go today :) I thought the film rocked Gollum was fantastic and the Ents were much better that i imagined they could be, truly an astounding work :)

jema

[Squeaky]

Do I dare say I was a *little* disappointed :)

[Fallguy]

Originally posted by Squeaky
Do I dare say I was a *little* disappointed :)

Um,
I wouldn't, not if you don't want to be lynched....... ;)

I finally got off my butt and bought the DVD of LOTR, so I can appraise the music a bit more closely.

Fallguy

[Fallguy]

Hmmm,
well I saw the Two Towers today, and I think this film was actually worse than the first one in terms of the music. And I am not sure that I liked some of the camera shots that seemed to stretch on for ever and ever...... I mean how many slow mo's does any one film need? Particularly when it is already well over 3 hours... Anyway, if I say any more I'll spoil something, so I'll zip my mouth up now.

Fallguy

[Sirius]

Originally posted by Squeaky
Do I dare say I was a *little* disappointed :)

You must be hard to please!!!

I thought it was absolutley awesome, sometimes you go to see a film that's three hours long and it drags but I couldn't believe this was over so quickly I was so caught up in it....and yep, gonna have to reread those books too :)

[wyles]

those about to go see it.....take particular note of how legolas mounts the horse......outstanding!! :D

[Sirius]

Originally posted by wylie
those about to go see it.....take particular note of how legolas mounts the horse......outstanding!! :D

Could you not notice it???? :)

Any guy here claim to be that athletic :leer:

[speculative]

You know, I just saw it today for the 2nd time... Took my sister, who hadn't seen it. I said to myself, "Oh yeah, NM thread where they're dissin' the music, ok I'll listen to see if it's good or not." Well, guess what? Once again, even though I'd just seen it a couple weeks ago, I got so caught up in the story that I didn't even notice the music, lack thereof, or anything like that. When I did notice it on occasion I thought it was great. So, in short, :p

-spec

[Elfy]

It was one of the best films i have ever seen...

But once again my imagination of what it was from the books made me think of it as something much much more...

I can plan out whole films in my head before i saw it, some where spot on, some missed out what i thought would fit into my best idea of the two towers..

[fragallrocks]

The only niggle I had in other wise excellent films (TFOTR and TTT). Was an over use of the silent, slowmo death melodrama bit.

I won't spoil it but I thouhought that the whole dam bit was fantastic, really moved me for some reason.