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Gservo
29th May 2002, 07:59 PM
Intel has released preliminary performance figures for its upcoming
family of 64-bit Itanium 2 processors, code-named McKinley, and the
company says that the products should experience one and a half to two
times the performance of existing Itanium products. Intel's Itanium
line processes data in 64-bit chunks instead of the 32 bits that
today's Pentium-based processors use. But many people regard the
original Itanium, which debuted with 700MHz and 800MHz models, as a
performance laggard compared with the Pentium and the 64-bit
competition from Sun Microsystems and other companies. Intel says the
new generation of microprocessors will address this concern.

Interestingly, Intel's solution doesn't rely on core processing speeds.
The Itanium 2 will debut at just 1GHz, less than half the nominal speed
of a high-end Pentium 4 processor, but it will offer 3MB of Level 3
(L3) cache and other on-chip performance tweaks. These tweaks provide
as much as two times the performance of the original Itanium and, says
Intel, a 50 percent performance advantage over Sun's fastest processor.

But Intel doesn't address the question of how well the chip stacks up
against the Pentium 4 processor in its Itanium 2 performance figures.
"Megahertz-myth" talk notwithstanding, Intel's most recent Pentium 4
processor, which runs at speeds faster than 2.5GHz, recently set a
performance record in the industry-standard Linpack Benchmark. This
feat represents the first time a mainstream, off-the-shelf processor
has topped this benchmark, which historically has been the domain of
costly specialty processors from Cray, Hitachi, NEC, and other
companies.

Ragnarog
30th May 2002, 12:46 AM
odd....the 700-800 Mhz Itanium 1's were dogslow....then how can a cpu that runs at 1 Ghz and that is "only" 2x faster than "dogslow" be blistering fast all of a sudden? :)

Rag

Jim
6th June 2002, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by Ragnarog
odd....the 700-800 Mhz Itanium 1's were dogslow....then how can a cpu that runs at 1 Ghz and that is "only" 2x faster than "dogslow" be blistering fast all of a sudden? :)

Rag

Rag, look at the information again. It states that the New Itanium will have 3MB of Level 3 cache. So the CPU will probably have 1MB of level 2 and 512K of Level 1 at a rough guess.

I think that will make a huge performance boost inevitable, however can you imagine the abilities of these things if Intel could release them at P4 compatable speeds!..Ouch

Ragnarog
6th June 2002, 01:31 PM
I know the info, but also you have to know that on current (99.9%) 32 bit software, the original Itanium 1 was SLOW SLOW SLOW and if you now take the Itanium 2 which is said to be 2x faster than THAT (intel says so....) then it cant be much of an improvment. On IA-64 software they will sure as hell beat anything and be fast too cause ...cause they're the only IA64 cpus around.... :)

Basically, in 32 bit mode it'll suck just as the I1 and in native 64 bit mode it'll fly and really FLY....the problem is to get IA64 software.... :rolleyes:

Rag

speculative
9th June 2002, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by Ragnarog
odd....the 700-800 Mhz Itanium 1's were dogslow....then how can a cpu that runs at 1 Ghz and that is "only" 2x faster than "dogslow" be blistering fast all of a sudden? :)

Rag

AMT, of course! (Advanced Marketing Technology. ;) :D )

-spec

Ragnarog
9th June 2002, 07:54 PM
Doh, should've known ;)

Rag

Fallguy
9th June 2002, 10:13 PM
IA-64 is dead! Long live IA-64...... lol

I don't care how "fast" the Itanium 2 is purported to be, no-one is supporting it. Even Microsoft is not planning to release a version of Windows (other than the limited release Windows XP-64) to support it, and without Microsoft support, the IA-64 architecture is as dead as the dodo.

Another indication that IA-64 is gone perhaps - the fact that Intel is working on their own x86-64 solution, code named "Yamhill".....

Ah well, IA-64 would have been nice in principle, unfortunately it just didn't arrive in time (it should have debuted origenally in '98, although how in Gods name they expected to fit that size die on a .25u manufacturing process I will never know!).

Fallguy