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Chelle
6th December 2001, 10:06 PM
While I believe this guide should be written in 2 parts, one for geek guys and one for non-geek guys, I'll do my best to generalize it. This is my version of a couple interesting articles I found on Guides to Geek Girls ;)


Finding the Geek Girl

Girl geeks are a minority in a male dominant environment. As the ratio of guy:girl geeks are overwhelmingly in favor of guys, we're harder to find. Half the time you probably don't even realize we're here. Many use screen names that aren't obviously gender-specific (myself excluded) and girl geeks sometimes obfuscate their gender in order to be taken more seriously. We have to work harder in the tech world to prove geek-worthiness, since having breasts seems to be an automatic assumption that we stumbled onto a webmaster forum by mistake. Because earning geek status is such a challenge, we either get really good at what we do, or give it up entirely.

The Approach

We are more attracted to intelligence than testosterone, so don't come on like a neanderthal. Most geek girls have had to endure a lot of harassment, criticism, over-inflated egos and sexual innuendos from their male counterparts and are wary of being approached. We do not respond kindly to "Hey baby wanna tweak my driver?" from someone with a screenname like "BYTE_THIS" Be sincere and honest, and be genuinely interested in her work.

Winning Her Over

Understand her passion. Take the time to see what she does, and what she's done. Feel her excitement when she launches a site, writes a Java applet that doesn't crash, or hacks into Apache for the first time. Shower her with amusing email, cool URLs and odd bits of USENET lore. Write secret letters to her on your website. Read her favorite newsgroups for a while; verse yourself in her interests.
Do NOT submit her URL to "Babes on the Web." No matter how cool you think it is.

Friendships

Due to the male:female geek ratio, chances are RL girlfriends will not be fellow geeks. This is an obstacle sometimes because non-geek girls just don't "get" what we do. We can't talk about scripts and hacks over lunch without drawing blank stares, and often find incessant babble about the latest Martha Stewart bed linen fashion to be an uninteresting topic of conversation. Luckily for women the topics of love, children and family are universal and is usually a safe topic to stick with. Mall shopping trips with non-geek girlfriends can get ugly. While they're off in the craft and candle shops, the geek girl's homing device magnetically draws her to the electronics and software shops, it's best to incorporate a paging or buddy system with your girlfriends, so as not to lose one another.

Online friendships with non-geek girls can be difficult. In order to maintain a successful friendship the non-geek girl must understand (and not be offended by) the universal code for "STFU and stop IM'ing me" which translates to "I'm coding".

Fashion & Lifestyle

Don't be lead by the misconception all geek girls are homely, societal misfits. We've come a long way. We don't wear thick glasses and ugly clothing. With the help of online shopping networks, we're very fashion-conscious. We can clean up pretty nice, and function well in social settings. We're also health-conscious, and unlike our male counterparts, we're more apt to snack on popcorn or high-grain snacks over pre-packaged cakes and Doritos. Coffee however, is essential and depending on the time of the month, chocolate.

Geek girls tend to have incredible stamina. We are adept at maintaining our online projects AND our households. We are not exempt from domestic-type duties. We raise children, do laundry, clean our houses, cook meals, and have the ability to stay up half the night programming. 8 hours sleep is purely frivolous.

We're proficient multi-taskers, and can paint our nails while coding, do a load of laundry while running a process and cook a meal while installing a database.

In closing, remember that a geek girl is a rewarding choice for a happy life. Unencumbered by many of the more ridiculous of society's trappings, she is a comfortable person who uses her brain and who wants to be with someone who does the same. If you qualify, a geek girl may be for you!

Jules
6th December 2001, 10:24 PM
"STFU and stop IM'ing me" which translates to "I'm coding".


ROTFLMAOOL! I had no idea! ;) ;) ;) :love

Gservo
7th December 2001, 12:11 AM
Wow I AM IMPRESSED let the memmorizing begin...

Talon
7th December 2001, 02:19 PM
Holy shit, I am printing this!! Well done!

Moogie
7th December 2001, 10:27 PM
Good job! :)

Gservo
9th December 2001, 02:58 PM
This is classic i am more than impressed i am learning something... Now finding her is going to be more fun, when i do you will know...

Gservo
13th December 2001, 01:16 PM
I let a friend read this, all he can say was,"can i have a copy":cool:

Gservo
5th February 2002, 03:37 AM
Appedage

IF SHE IS BUILDING A PC, Leave her be....

Chelle
5th February 2002, 05:12 AM
LOL!!!!!! :p

Jules
5th February 2002, 05:59 AM
:) :D ;) :p :cool:

Gservo
29th April 2002, 02:28 AM
memories running throught the corner of my mind....

as well as
This is my version of Girl's Guide to Geek Guys which I found after reading a post on geeknews.I made the Changes the i thought were needed




Why Geek Guys Rule

- We are generally available
- Other women tend not to steal us
- We can fix thing
- Your parents will love us
- We're smart
- We have stock options
- We are better in bed than every man you have ever met
- We have access to "stuff"

For the most part, geeks are generally available. With the exception of those of us who are lucky enough to have found a wonderful girl that will not only put up with us, but consider some of the things we do cute, and even better - a turn on! I'm not sure about the whole woman not trying to steal us... I'll leave someone else to cover that topic. We might not be to handy with the hot water heater, or the car for that matter, but you will have free tech support for anything remotely computer related (well, almost free *wink* *wink*) Your parents will think that we are the greatest thing since sliced bread, so quiet and considerate. We ace our SATs, we write code from birth, we make just shy of six figures out of high school, we own stock before ever owning a car. We actually care about you, and seven years of surfing porn (and don't believe otherwise) makes a little wise the anatomy of a woman. We can get you movies before they are in theaters, likewise for your favorite CDs, we get in good with the parents by giving your younger siblings the $60 dollar computer games that they themselves were reluctant to buy.







Where the Geek Guy Lurks

Well if you are reading this, then you obviously have some interest in geek guys, which means you probably have found a few but have no idea about what to do. There is no definitive place to find geeks anymore, we are everywhere. You cannot find us by the clothes we wear anymore, but instead by the way we act, and the garbled technical nonsense that comes out of our mouths. We do NOT wear pocket protectors, our socks do NOT show because our pants are too high, and we do NOT wear black glasses with a taped nose-piece.

I cannot speak for the rest of us, but my hair is spiked, I have 6 piercing yet none of them are visible (people tend to get the wrong idea about people with piercing... much like people have the wrong idea about geeks, but that’s a whole-nother rant), I shop at name brand designer stores, and unless you catch me on an off day, you would not be able to tell me apart from any other non-geek. I dress this way for you, the girls.. to many of you have the wrong impression about us. You have to catch me on those off days to see our true colors. If I am hanging out with friends, grocery shopping, or just out having a good time and not TRYING to look normal, you'll see me in the shorts that I've had for 3 years, the free shirt I got off the Internet that has an advertisement for some piece of software, or maybe if your lucky, something I picked up on copyleft (http://www.copyleft.net/) or thinkgeek(http://www.thinkgeek.com/) . But you can notice the little things that we do. We hear people talking about computers and our ears pick up, we walk past a computer store and cannot help but go in, we browse the computer section of Barnes & Noble, and if you ask us any question about computers, we will be more than happy to expound with more information than you ever wanted to know.





The Sci Fi Factor

Sci Fi is an important factor for some geeks, not all. I'm not even going to get in to this one. I have never watched more than thirty seconds of Star Trek, I cannot read and write klingon fluently. This has most likely transformed into the general geek factor. I have seen every movie about computers since there have been movies about computers. I can tell you why Hackers is a good movie because it has Angelina Jolie in leather, but is strictly based in fantasyland as far as computers go. Same for The Net (minus the leather) and every other movie that has come out lately.



How to Nabb Him and what to do Once You've Nabbed Him

It's actually fairly simple, approach us, say hello, and introduce yourself. We are not going to do it. No matter what you may think, you are not going to scare us off by being forward; we'll take it as a compliment (if we don't turn and run that is). Try and talk to us on our level, don't try and talk technical to us, or try and act different, just try and find something that we both have in common, which will most likely be music, movies, or some other form of entertainment. Try techno, punk, and alternative rock. Try mentioning upcoming shows you are "interested" in seeing, but don't have anyone to go with. Mention your anticipation about the upcoming release of a CD that you wish you could listen to now. Be creative; if all else fails just ask him flat out to do something (anything). Once you've gotten your hands on us, everything is pretty much the same as any other relationship you have been in. You just have to make sure to assure us that you are still interested, throw in little comments to boost our confidence, a gentle reminder every once in a while will go a loooooooong way with a geek. Yes we do work more than we should. Even if its not *actually* work related, we're always doing something to keep us busy with something computer related. We get bored, what do we do? Code. It is hard to keep us away from our love. Give us alternatives, unless we're working on something that is extremely urgent for work (to distinguish this from extremely urgent for my latest and greatest Internet idea is a skill you have to pick up on your own), we won't mind being interrupted by a beautiful half naked woman with who knows what in mind. If there is one thing I am proud of geeks being reliable for, is not neglecting a woman's needs.



Geek Cuisine

Caffeine.
Any sort will do, massive amounts of carbonated, caffeinated beverages.
And as the old guide says, home cooked food. After sitting in cubicles all day sampling the wonders of artificially hydrogenate soybean and yellow number five from the insides of the company vending machines, real food is defiantly appreciated.



Geek Buddies

Yes our friends are weird. Give us our time to be with them. We feel the need to get together, over-clock each other’s keyboards and frag the hell out of each other in the latest multi-player first person shooter. Don't try and give us ultimatum between us and our friends, or even worse, our computers. Be supportive, offer food from the above section, caffeine and home cooked food will not only show us that you are being supportive, but also increase your legendary status among our friends.

bubbadog
29th April 2002, 03:07 AM
Very well written, Michelle! :clapper

Nanobot
17th May 2002, 09:01 PM
This is so the words geek, girl and girls get added to the search indexes :)

bubbadog
17th May 2002, 11:52 PM
:kisses: Thank you Nanobot. I was actually going to ask if this could be resurrected, because I just love it!

Chelle
18th May 2002, 06:20 AM
Good thinking Nanobot :laugh:

GITster
18th May 2002, 01:11 PM
Whaaaaaaaaaaat? :confused:

Nanobot
18th May 2002, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by GITster
Whaaaaaaaaaaat? :confused:

If that question was in regard to my post about indexes then the answer is that this post was brought over from the 3DHQ forums. As it has been added outside of the normal methods the forum search engine would not have been able to find it without someone adding the keywords.

Farabomb
18th May 2002, 04:44 PM
It's actually fairly simple, approach us, say hello, and introduce yourself. We are not going to do it. No matter what you may think, you are not going to scare us off by being forward; we'll take it as a compliment (if we don't turn and run that is).

Sad but true
All my female friends say we have to approach them but I have a tough time doing that. Well execpt the girls at starbucks but they see me before I'm human so they run and hide when I ask. :(